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Sunday July 1

Jesus is too much for us
David Timbs
(Sunday blogger from Australia)
The temptation, ever facing even Jesus' own closest followers, is to limit and domesticate him within the boundaries of our own logic, presumption, manipulation, comfort. He will never be contained by these

 

President Hu Jintao in HK:

Reporter was "too loud" 
Kelvin Chan (Montreal Gazette)

Hu faces restive Hong Kong
Juliana Liu
(BBC)

Protest over activist's death (RTHK)

Hu's son: Hu Haifeng (Wikipedia)

10 years of ordaining women (NCR)

An American moment in Vatican
John Allen (NCR)

Pope speaks of papacy's weakness
Andrea Tornielli
(VI)
Reader:
End of days' reflection?

Fr Robert Barron video commentary on the meaning of Vatican II
- a very eloquent explaining away of  Vat II.    But faulty logic:
 does
having a meeting really mean "all your rules are up for grabs"?
Put "Barron" into Google at top 
for v2cath articles re RB


US bishops re health care decision

Alessandro Speciale
(VI)
Reader: 
USCCB is now between a rock and a hard place. They positioned themselves by their own dogmatism and collective foolishness

Opus Dei, gendarmes win 1st round
(Chiesa)
Reader:
The Chiesa link above resembles a trend in that journal to reflect the party line. This time round it has all the colour of a promo for Opus Dei. They seem to be running the shown inside HQ at the moment, the de facto government, while BXVI finishes his latest tome and Vat II is further diluted to a soft drink 

This week's smile 
Best to change shirt in toilet!


Vatican II  Reflection 188

Condom ok?

Bible Plan: July 1
 Readings for 13th Sunday of Year

John W:  Daily Blog - July 1
In prison during the march

Monday July 2

Are judgments of morality
 merely subjective?

Brian Lewis
 
(Monday blogger from Australia)
Was captain a "bloody murderer"?

Vatican turf war:  Papal apartment 
vs Secretariat of State

Giacomo Galeazzi
(VI)
Not an edifying article. New info will  make you shake your head


Why study the Psalms?
William Van Ornum (America)
The most beautiful songs 
and prayers ever written

Excommunicated Chinese bishop ordains four priests
 Gerard O'Connell (VI)
"Sacriliege" - Abp Savio Hon

 Vatican II  Reflection 189
How does my bishop help the poor?


Bible plan:
July 2
Famous words from Joshua:
"As for me and my house,
we will serve the Lord" 
(despite the example of leaders
 caught up in the cycle of  ambition/power/luxury)

As I came home last night, having seen police out in force on the street for the departure of President Hu   and for the annual protest  march,  I began reflecting how Hong Kong these past few days reminds me of the Catholic Church:

People in charge are becoming more and more isolated as they hold  their functions/meetings with more and more censorship/police activity. 

What a contrast yesterday in HK:
 In the early morning an unpopular President Hu installing a most unpopular new chief-executive in a setting where the public and the media were denied free access.

Then from midday, a huge outpouring of public protest in the form of the annual protest march.

In one corner (literally) leaders behind guarded/censored closed doors. In the other corner, the media-supported people out on the streets.

c.f.r. Pope's recent
 Lunch meeting in Ducal Hall
....far from the madding crowd,
and....grass-roots gatherings of clergy & laity in Austria, Germany, Ireland, UK, USA.

And never the twain shall meet?

-
John W in Daily Blog - July 2


Tuesday
July 3

How to live today
Martin Mallon
(Tuesday blogger from Ireland)
What should we do now while we wait for changes in the structure of the institutional church?

Pope fires another bishop
John Allen (NCR)
c.f. bottom right of this page: Bp M

Müller to succeed Levada
John Allen (NCR)
Bishop Gerhard Müller of Germany 
to  head Congregation for D & F

October Vatican Synod:
HK's Card Tong key role
(RTHK)
One of three chairmen

Vat II theologians "dressed up faith with fashionable packaging"
Professor Tracey Rowland (Tablet)
 - ALL
theologians?? - note title of conference ..an anti-Vat II show

Newly ordained married priest
a rarity in local diocese
Steve Spearie (SJ-R)

July 8 - Hong Kong:
Protest march against USA drone
attacks in Pakistan.
For more info re drones, put
"drones pakistan" into search
of John Dear's website

Audio below is in VOB format...very large...very slow to open....help!
jdwomi@gmail.com (John W)

Not long after speaking of sheep & goats at the Last Judgment,
Jesus prayed for ...the goats:

Love's Freedom (15 mins ABC)
 audio of Rev. Austen Williams,
1956-1984 vicar of 
St Martin-in-the-Fields,
(Home of London Ho Ming Wah
 Chinese People's Day Centre).
This recording,  broadcast by ABC on April 3, 1980, 
is one of my favorites. For a long time I've wanted to put it on www. This is a first effort. I hope it can be made into a smaller file

"A Living School" Richard Rohr
Details of July 21 live broadcast

Guardian report on HK march
Vaudine England

HK's new leader sworn in/at
(Guardian)
14 telling photos
(Guardian)
Video of the march
(SCMP)
Note the number of young people

Vatican II  Reflection 190
Church is like a Big Business ?

Bible plan: July 3
Readings for feast of St Thomas

John W:   Daily Blog - July 3
No Protestants in China/Vatican?


Wednesday
July 4
Happy Day USA!

This website's statistics:
June 2012 report
More bloggers needed!

Movement for Married Clergy
Chris McDonnell 
(Wednesday blogger from UK)
Group's new mission statement

 published on Pray Tell 
same article has 98 comments!

The Evil of Compulsory Celibacy
John W
Has links to many, many articles

Investors'  meeting in London: 
How to buy land in Africa
Rupert Neate
(Guardian)
"They are displacing farmers, up-rooting communities and food production and destroying ecosystems on a massive scale. They are increasing hunger and poverty"

Another year, 
another failed climate summit
Chris Berg (ABC)
"Agreement produced at  Rio+20 Earth Summit is unmitigated junk"

End of an Era
George Monbiot
"Rio+20  the greatest failure of collective leadership since WWI"

Rio concludes with disappointment
Brian Roewe (NCR)

"I hope they'll listen to me"
Andrés  Álvarez
(VI)

Vatican's new media advisor
Reader: Having worked for the Legion controlled National Catholic 'Register' and Fox News, the crowd that features Bill O'Reilly and promoted the delusional Glenn Beck, Burke will be able to provide all the spin and defensive strategies the Vatican media arm wants/needs.

Why ignore15 million black Baptists?
Karen Sue Smith (America)
c.f. there are currently 3 million black Catholics in the U.S. (2 to 3 percent) 250 black priests &16 black bishops

Egypt: Christians hoping Islamic president will keep promises
Gerard O'connell
(VI)
A Christian vice-president?

Thank you
"The Swag" for giving
v2catholic a plug in April issue

For Chinese readers - this HK site:
Ut Abundantius Community
and its seasonal magazine

Vatican II  Reflection 184
Injustice a major cause of war

Bible plan: June 27
Be still and know that I am God
when you feel helpless

John W: Daily Blog - June 27
A perfect storm brewing in HK


Thursday
June 28

Learning from India's greatest poet
Jon M. Sweeney (America)
Tagore: India's Shakespeare

Australia's 20 year search
 for the right asylum policy
Frank Brennan (Eureka Street)

SSPX says "No":
Vatican Insider 
Andrea Tornielli 
NCR
Alessandro Speciale
Reader:
 
SSPX give brick walls a bad name

Details of Pope's June 23 meetings
Sarah Delaney
(NCR)
Why Card Pell went to Rome...

Book review: Fr Robert Barron
Yves Congar: Diary from Vatican II
see comment by John W ( may not get published): agreed with comment by Tim Spalding...that 2nd half of article gives a one-sided approach to VII. To say VII was just a static event from which we move on is like saying Pentecost was a static event, just a one-off phenomenon with no relevance to time that followed.
Put "barron" into Google at top...

Israel's treatment of Palestinian kids
Harriet Sherwood
(Guardian)
Reader: Shame, Israel, Shame
John W:  injustice breeds terrorism

Vatican  II  Reflection 185
A Middle-East Economic Union?!

Bible Plan for June 28
Promises kept (Judges);
Promises made (Mark)

John W:  Daily Blog - June 28
It's an ill wind that blows no good!!!

From article above re Tagore:
Last year, during the 150th anniversary of Tagore’s birth, 
the West learned much about the “Shakespeare of India.” He is one of the world’s best-known poets


Friday
June 29
Feast of St Peter and St Paul
A day of obligation in UK
....and a holiday in Malta

Looking forward, not backwards,
in the Year of Grace

David Timbs
(CathBlog)
"
The leadership of the Church might well consider putting in place a permanent, ongoing program of Synods in order to listen, 
hear and consult with
 the entire People of God"

A Mother's Plea
by
"A Cracked Pot"
"Let us open our doors of God’s church and welcome everyone without discrimination; let Jesus do the rest. Let’s help Our Lord’s kingdom come, so that His will can be done. Let Him feed, medicate, nourish and love.  Let Him be the potter.  If the clay is not of good quality, then let Him decide"

Reminder about when to genuflect
and when to bow
Elizabeth Harrington
(Leader)
Altar not for teddy bears

Priest who changed words of liturgy
is changed by bishop
(ACS)

Promoting priestly vocations
Alessandro Speciale
(VI)
"Fragile personalities not suitable"
 
Paul: choose mature married men

Queen & IRA leader shake hands
(Guardian)
Queen a true model of reconciliation

The threat to freedom of speech
is in your own backyard
Antony Loewenstein (ABC)

Vatican II  Reflection 186
The issue of privatization 

Bible plan: June 29
Readings for Feast of Peter & Paul

John W:   Daily Blog - June 29
Peter and Paul reflection

Saturday June 30

Healing power of a handshake
Jo Berry
(Tablet)
Jo's father was killed by the IRA.
A moving article

Emboldening lay Catholics
Peter Kirkwood (Eureka Street)
Video interview with UK journalist Clifford Longley 

Ireland: Update on new lay
"Umbrella Orgainisation"
(ACP)
DV various groups in other countries can also get together under an umbrella!

A welfare reform too far
Tablet Editorial

Ten Steps to a Healthier Church:
How to Fix the Vatican
Fr Michael Kelly SJ
 
(CathNews USA)
- see comment by John W

Good for goose, good for gander
Fr William Grim, Tokyo (ucanews)
Ultra-traditionalists aren't the only ones in need of papal 'solicitude'
-
see comment by John W

Council is starting point
for Orthodox-Catholic unity

Luca Rolandi (VI)
Reader: 

Benedict may fear the Greeks bringing gifts. They might be the half of Catholicism he has chosen to ignore out of fear.
c.f. Patriach's beautiful words here

Vatican II Reflection 187
Am I concerned about un-fair trade?

Bible plan: June 30
Luke just a "story"/"myth" ?

John W:  Daily Blog -June 30
Big winds and big march in HK

Wishing all dear readers
a Happy Pentecost Season!
 

 

Many thanks  for checking
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July 16-20  Australia: 
National Council of Priests meeting

More bloggers wanted!
  From all parts of the world!
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Let's encourage more people 
to see 1-10  re Bishop Bill Morris
1: Judge's conclusions
2: Canon lawyer's report
 
3: Radio interview with judge

4:  "The Age" file of letters
5: Summary re Rome
 6: Frank Brennan's update
7: ABC radio Fr Frank Brennan

8. Update from Frank Brennan

9. Vatileaks & Bp Bill Morris

10: Tablet letter - Frank Brennan

After reading 1-10, check the "Pravda" report of CNA.
How can a Catholic agency 
publish such blatant lies?
Censorship and lies....all the more need for websites like v2catholic

Google "Morris" at top of this page
for many articles re Bishop BM

 Bp Bill Morris   
Bp Pat Power
Bp Geoff Robinson
Bruce Duncan
Catalyst for Renewal
Catholics for Ministry  
Frank Brennan
Peter Johnstone     
The Swag
 

        Bloggers' previous articles

Other Archives
2012

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  2010
2009
2008

16 Documents of V2 
We Are Church
STANDUP4VATICAN2
VII - Voice of the Church

Catholic Priests Ireland

PrayTell
Donald Cozzens
Misguided Missal
   

Hazel of Old Windsor    Inigo Joachim      Brian Lewis  

    Judith Lynch      Martin Mallon     Chris McDonnell

 Bill Mulcahy        Des O'Donnell

   
David Timbs      Peter Wilkinson      John Wotherspoon

Hans Kung's letter to bishops
(the best description of what's happening)

Priests say 9 Masses a day....need to ordain married men

Making do with a faulty translation

Irish priests using 1998 ICE - not new translation


Fr J. Ratzinger's writings on V2

Open letter to US bishops re new translation

Why are women not being 
ordained to the priesthood?

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