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Sunday
July 15

Mutual Enrichment of the two Rites
David Timbs
(Sunday blogger from Australia)
Msgr Wadsworth's supporting act
 & Cardinal Burke's  foot in mouth 

Let married deacons be priests 
Brian Eyre
, a Catholic married priest in Recife, Brazil, argues that bishops should ordain mature married men to the priesthood  (ACP)

Congo humanitarian crisis:

Church battles emergency

Davide Demichelis
(VI)

Aid donors UK and US must condemn Rwanda's support for Congo rebellion
Glenys Kinnock (Guardian)

The often forgotten Africans....

Come Lonely One
Terrance Klein (America)
Robert Kennedy the prophet

VatiLeaks: A Space and
 Information Age effect
Eugene Kennedy (NCR)

Real war on religion
 and a ticking Vatican PR bomb
John Allen (NCR)

This week's smile 
Amos praying for money !


Vatican II  Reflection 201

Catholic school must have
"a preference for the poor"

Bible Plan: July 15
 Readings for 15th Sunday of Year

John W:  Daily Blog - July 15
A-F-R-I-C-A  !

Idea for a movie:
"Joy To The World"
A collection of happy stories in the Gospel...presented with joy and humor  
* Zachary in Temple praying for, then getting baby, then dumb etc
* not yet married Mary being asked by angel to have a baby
* Joseph's take on his spouse
getting pregnant
* birth in stable....with animals
* the joyful stories and reactions of some of the many people healed by Jesus
* Jesus' joyful entry to Jerusalem
* Easter story with joy and humor

etc.       DV someone someday can make such a movie. We need help to see the underlying joy of the Gospel story. It's not really evident/appreciated


Monday
July16

What is Utilitarianism?
Brian Lewis
 
(Monday blogger from Australia)
Is it ok for a husband/father to spend Sat/Sun morning on golf course?

US priests' association calls for 
reassessment of new translation

Fr Anthony Ruff OSB (Pray Tell)

Enough of reaction to reaction
Sherry Anne Weddel
(Siena)
We can end the cycle of reaction
See comment by John W

Legion of Christ needs new identity
Alessandro Speciale (W. Post)
Reader: Time has come to give them more than a new identity

Pope's visit commemorates Council
Giacomo Galeazzi
(VI)
Reader:
Which Council?!

Pope to visit Poland 2015?
Marek Lehnert
(VI)
Reader: Continuity name of the game
John W:
which pope?!

Putting back what's missing:
the entrance rites
 
Fritz Bauerschmidt (Pray Tell)
Reader:
It's important to let folks know that creative disturbance continues in many parts of the world
John W: a can of (dead) worms !

Bible plan: July 16
What about me? What should I do?

 Vatican II  Reflection 202
Lay people -  study theology !

John W:  Daily Blog - July 16
Two stories from yesterday

From article above
by Fr Anthony Ruff OSB

The resolution on the new English missal asserts that it has “caused disharmony, disruption and discord among many… frustrating rather than inspiring the Eucharistic prayer experience of the Christian faithful, thus leading to less piety and to less ‘full, active and conscious participation’,” and that it “has created pastoral problems, in particular because of its cumbersome style, arcane vocabulary, grammatical anomalies, and confusing syntax.”


Tuesday
July 17

Inconsistent Methodology
Martin Mallon
(Tuesday blogger from Ireland) 
It would appear that Pope Benedict will continue to use the hermeneutic of continuity to interpret the teachings of Vatican II while using “definitive” teachings to halt debate on disputed points of theology, such as ordaining women priests. The fact that the idea of “definitive” teachings is in conflict with the hermeneutic of continuity is not a problem, apparently.  
We are left in the inconsistent situation where the hermeneutic of discontinuity may not be used to interpret the teachings of Vatican II, but may be used to endorse “definitive” teachings.  

 

July 16 - July 20 Australia:
Annual meeting of 
National Council of Priests

One early report
Peter Collins (The Standard)

Brian Coyne (Catholica):
The event is receiving a lot less publicity than the last one...
 Their own journal, The Swag [http://theswag.org.au/],  has closed as an openly accessed publication and is available only by subscription now. It would be interesting to know if that decision was made purely on revenue grounds alone ....

Religious groups need to back off partisanship to shore up confidence
Matthew Brown (Deseret News)

To understand the world we must understand religion
US Vatican ambassador (VI)

Vat finances: Europe Report
Philip Pullella (Reuters)
Reader: The shock of joining 
the real world

Bp Bill Morris Catholica thread
 keeps growing.  This recent post will give you a smile, and Brian Coyne's new post on the issue is perceptive

War on drugs:
Honduras report
Stephen Sackur (Guardian)
John W: this is an issue we all must care about. It affects the whole world. I'm up close to it in HK
and its not nice. It is evil

Bible plan: July 17
Strength to face each day's trials 

Vatican II  Reflection 203
Better understanding of doctrine

John W:   Daily Blog - July 17
Say hello to strangers in church !


Wednesday
July 11

Seek healing, not division
Chris McDonnell
(Wednesday blogger from UK)
"We must find a way to talk"

Bible plan: July 11
"Sometimes when I see our world and religion in ruins, I wonder why 
has God abandoned us?"

Today - 11th day, 11th hour:
A Day of Sadness

New bishop for Toowoomba.
Ceremony will be streamed live on diocesan website. Extensive coverage in Toowoomba Chronicle
"The Chronicle will have photographs, video and commentary on our website from the conclusion of the ceremony tomorrow afternoon. An extensive coverage of the ordination will feature in Chronicle on Thursday"
John W's comment:
My heart goes out to Bishop Bill Morris. Imagine how he is feeling today. He must be feeling like a devoted husband whose loving wife has been snatched from him and is today being married, against her will, to another. An invalid marriage! History will show that Bill's removal from Toowoomba was a great act of injustice. Some day he will be vindicated, just like Mary MacKillop. In the light of numbers 1-10 below,  those (freely) taking part in today's ceremony should feel most  uncomfortable. By their presence they are saying yes to an act of injustice.  Blessings on the people of principle who boycott today's ceremony. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for justice.  "Lest we forget"

Ohio churches spared by Rome
look to revival
....People power...
Thomas J Sheeran (Newark Adv)

Vatican II  Reflection 197
Mission of schools and teachers

Nothing sacred about celibacy
Adele Horin (SMH)

"It is hard to avoid the conclusion that the unique factor of a celibate, all-male priesthood has contributed to the church's woes, and to the woes inflicted on its victims"

China: new bishop "taken away"
(RTHK) c.f.  Tues menu:
Shanghai's new courageous bishop

Melbourne - July 15 - 5pm Mass

Inclusive Catholics

John W: Daily Blog - July 11
am - hospital;  afternoon - prison


Thursday
July 12

New Toowoomba bishop:

Brian Coyne's comment
(Catholica)
See Catholica thread for growing number of comments re this issue

Catholica has link to Chronicle
photo showing a sadly reflective 
Bp Bill Morris handing over the bishop's staff  to his successor.

My guess is that Bill  humbly agreed to attend for the sake of the Toowoomba Church....to discourage it from schism-mode.
God bless your pastoral love Bill!

Methinks I see Frank Brennan in the Chronicle photo. His take on the show will be a strong read!

Answers to several liturgy questions
Elizabeth Harrington (Leader)
OK to use "old" Our Father??

Psalms of Peace: Psalm 45
John Dear (NCR)
I can testify that I have seen the God of peace at work to end war -- in El Salvador, Iraq, Northern Ireland, the Philippines, Nicaragua, Colombia, Palestine, Mexico, Egypt, India, US

Rediscovering Vatican II Lectures 
Catholic Theological Union Chicago

Top church historian
 sees Catholic schism ahead

Jonathan Luxmoore
(NCR)
Catholicism faces a division over attempts by popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI to "rewrite the story" of the 1962-65 Vatican II Council

Bible Plan for July 12
May the Spirit who came down on Jephthah....and who prompted Simeon, come down and prompt us

Vatican  II  Reflection 198
Government education money must be distributed in such a way that parents are truly free to choose the schools they want for their children

John W:  Daily Blog - July 12
Bishop Morris - and RIP Yve


Friday July 13

This is the "reality" for them
Bill Mulcahy
(Friday blogger from Australia)
Check the moving photos...

 "Women, Faithful and Free?"
Emmy Silvius
Talk given at a Spirituality in the Pub gathering July 9 
"I will narrow the focus to the topic of women's ordination....because the handling of this issue mirrors the Church's response to all matters it feels uncomfortable with"

Removed US priest now banned
(ICN)
Reader:
"Given +Braxton's less than impressive record in two dioceses,
 it's no wonder he needs deflection and diversion. It's the game plan for the whole USCCB"

Will China ban new bishop?
Gerard O'Connell
(VI)
Reader:
More politics from two totalitarian regimes

Egypt: fight to avoid Sharia Law
Giorgio Bernardelli (VI)
Reader:
The 'Beards' 
need to be  kept out of this entirely

Message from UK blogger
Chris McDonnel:
"As to the Wadsworth piece, check out Pray Tell June 29, 118 comments there! See also the furore that Cardinal Raymond Burke has raised July 6th and July 9th Pray Tell
My posting (n09 July 9th)"

Boat people un-Christian?
Wrong, Mr Abbott
Julian Burnside
(ABC)
This art has over 1,000 comments!

South Sudan - three reports:
Promising anniversary
(CathNews)
Refugee crisis
(MSF)
"Hell on earth" (UEG)


Another item to go on file
"Agenda of reform of reform":
Concelebration to be restricted?
(CathNews)
c.f. Zenit article 2012-03-05

Bible plan: July 13
Have you seen Jesus?!

Vatican II  Reflection 199
Facebook is the current Areopagus

John W:   Daily Blog - July 13
A stupid law that needs changing:
deacons may not administer the Sacrament of the Sick



Saturday
July 14
Bastille Day !

West Africa desperately needs help with its food shortage
Tony Magliano
(NCR)
This made me use my Visa card

Reader's comment 
(re July 13 DailyBlog)

Couldn’t agree more with you on the exclusion of deacons from the Anointing of the Sick. As for the ‘forgiveness of sins’ business, it is clear that the liturgists and gatekeepers of the Sacraments have no idea what the Penitential Rite at Mass is all about. If they made the connection there and also read a bit of the history of the Sacraments then they would see  Anointing goes back to a very liberality in past, especially early, ecclesial practice and not at all clerical.  

Syria's Churches and the future prospects of a tormented country
Paolo Zanini
(VI)
Reader: Another Golden Bowl
full of scorpions?

Internet censorship:

Russia: Wikipedia protest at 
Putin's "Great Firewall" plan
Miriam Elder (Guardian)

On HK metro a few days ago,
I met a young lawyer from
Malaysia who said the ruling party there is increasing internet censorship as a way of controlling protest. Same party had opposition leader in prison on false charge for 4 years

c.f. Malaysian internet censorship

Bible plan: July 14
Infinitely more than we can  imagine

Reader's message:
Thank you very much for your information about Jehovah Witnesses. You are right. They are good people, but, in fact, they really disturbed  my family. 
c.f. ex-JW's site
and site re Mormons

Vatican II Reflection 200 (!)
 Cath school meant to be a place animated by Gospel spirit of charity


John W:  Daily Blog -July 14
Bastille Day reflection!

Wishing all dear readers
a Happy Pentecost Season!
 

 

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July 16-20  Australia: 
National Council of Priests meeting

More bloggers wanted!
  From all parts of the world!
Please contact John 

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Let's encourage more people 
to see 1-10  re Bishop Bill Morris
1: Judge's conclusions
2: Canon lawyer's report
 
3: Radio interview with judge

4:  "The Age" file of letters
5: Summary re Rome
 6: Frank Brennan's update
7: ABC radio Fr Frank Brennan

8. Update from Frank Brennan

9. Vatileaks & Bp Bill Morris

10: Tablet letter - Frank Brennan

After reading 1-10, check the "Pravda" report of CNA.
How can a Catholic agency 
publish such blatant lies?
Censorship and lies....all the more need for websites like v2catholic

Google "Morris" at top of this page
for many articles re Bishop BM

 Bp Bill Morris   
Bp Pat Power
Bp Geoff Robinson
Bruce Duncan
Catalyst for Renewal
Catholics for Ministry  
Frank Brennan
Peter Johnstone     
The Swag
 

        Bloggers' previous articles

Other Archives
2012

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2009
2008

16 Documents of V2 
We Are Church
STANDUP4VATICAN2
VII - Voice of the Church

Catholic Priests Ireland

PrayTell
Donald Cozzens
Misguided Missal
   

Hazel of Old Windsor    Inigo Joachim      Brian Lewis  

    Judith Lynch      Martin Mallon     Chris McDonnell

 Bill Mulcahy        Des O'Donnell

   
David Timbs      Peter Wilkinson    John Wotherspoon

Hans Kung's letter to bishops
(the best description of what's happening)

Fr J. Ratzinger's writings on Vat II

Open letter to US bishops re new translation

Making do with a faulty translation

Irish priests use 1998 ICE  - not new translation

Priests say 9 Masses a day - need to ordain married men

The evil of compulsory celibacy


Why are women not being ordained to priesthood?

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