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 of Vatican II burning in the middle of the road
 
despite extreme winds from left and right


Sunday
August 12

Index of 2012 and 2011 articles
  David Timbs
(Sunday blogger from Australia)
A rich source of information about
current issues affecting the Church

Priests who lie: the dilemma of sexual orientation and the priesthood
Tom Rastrelli (ACP)

These nuns are the real thing
Thomas Fox
(NCR)

What does Jesus mean when he says he's the bread of life?
Bishop Thomas Gumbleton (NCR)
So what Jesus is asking of these people now is to develop a relationship with him, come to know him. In quiet prayer experience his presence. Deepen awareness of who he is, the way of life that he lived

Missionary to Africa finds images of God among the poorest and least
Sr Camille D'Arienzo
(NCR)
Beautiful story of Marj Humphrey
 who spent 17 years in Africa

How Britain's multicultural capital
won the hearts of people
from every nation

Kenfrey Kiberenge (Guardian)

Our Gold Medal nomination for best Olympic article is this one
 by Andy Bull
(Guardian)
Rudisha breaks world record

Rudisha pulled the field around behind him, like a speedboat leading seven water-skiers. The pace was so ferocious that the silver medallist had to be carried from the track in a stretcher. He went off waving cheerily to the crowd

YouTube blocks "Hooking kids on sex" concerning Planned Parenthood US sex education campaign (STOPP)
Of concern to people around the world, since such issues in USA quickly spread to other countries 
....like the Philippines:
Planned Parenthood promoting
"two child policy"  in Philippines

This week's smile
Charge for batteries

Vatican II  Reflection 229
2 billion yet to hear Good News


Bible Plan: August 5
 Readings for 19th Sunday of Year

John W:  Daily Blog - August 12
Same advice from two wise men

Monday August 13

2012 and previous articles
Brian Lewis
 
(Monday blogger from Australia)
Notice how Brian always applies Gospel  teaching to particular situations with the compassion that Jesus showed  to those in difficulty

Katie Taylor - gold medal Christian
Jo O'Sullivan (ACP)
Irish Olympic champion's first 
thought after victory was to give praise to her Creator

"Surprising support" and the
 future of the center-left
John Allen (NCR

The center-left, however, sometimes seems adrift. You can find these folks working in chanceries, ministering in parishes and teaching in Catholic schools, not to mention making up a good chunk of the rank-and-file. They don't like some of what they're seeing from Rome and the U.S. bishops, but they don't want to end up in opposition either

See comment by Tom Acemoglu
(Aug 10) which begins 

As a "center-right" Catholic, I have found that the most fruitful dialogue happens amongst the "center-left" and the "center-right". The "center-left" can be a prophetic reminder of the needs of the poor and marginalized. They also aren't trying to undo the Church but try to work within a system that they feel needs reforms that aren't necessarily systemic

What happened in St Louis?
Ken Briggs (NCR)
"I'm disappointed at final resolution"
 

4-course Bible meal for August 13
- Saul on ecstasy
-  wine is for cheering our hearts
- grand plan of reconciliation
- much forgiveness, much love

Vatican II  Reflection 230
God bless Muslim inmates!

John W:  Daily Blog - August 13
Add oil! 
(with extra message for Australians!)

Yesterday I discovered that the links "cud" and "resolution" on Bible meal files were not working. Fixed now.
Had not been working for some time. If you notice a broken link on this website, please let me know. John W

Tuesday August 14

Congar and the Council
Martin Mallon
(Tuesday blogger from Ireland)
 Congar never took his eye off the ball and commenting on the closing Mass of the Council remarked that “...there was something wrong. It was all about the pope. It gave the impression the pope was above the church rather than in it"...The Council planted the seeds of a new ecclesiology – a new church. But the obstructionism  of the Roman Curia and of the forces of the right led to too many essential points being expressed as compromises

What sort of Catholic is vice- presidential candidate Paul Ryan?
Ted Schmidt
(Catholica)
50 Theologians: Ryan's budget 
a betrayal of Catholic principles

Paul Ryan: Champion of Dissent
Michael Sean Winters (NCR)
Mr. Ryan has taken to invoking Catholic Social Teaching, and especially the concept of subsidiarity. Alas, he could not tell the difference between subsidiarity and sausage

Cameron hosts world hunger meeting
(RTHK)
Olympic meeting attended by
sports stars and politicians

Excellent reflection on London 2012
John Williams (Guardian)
Well done London!

My calling to the clerical culture
Don Fausel (per Catholica)
This article has been added to file
The evil of compulsory celibacy
(at bottom of this page)

Also by Don Fausel:
Obedience to Authority
 and loyal dissent

"I believe now is the time for all good people of God to ratchet up its level of dissent, and to follow these great role models"   (Newman, Catherine, Murray..)

Bible plan: July August 7
A rich 4-course meal!
- David kind to Saul even though...
- make the Lord known
- "Bind us together, Lord"
- certain women

Vatican II  Reflection 231
Reaching out like Jesus

John W:   Daily Blog - August 14
A sad anniversary today

Wednesday August 8
Saint Mary MacKillop

 

Atomic bombs, no. Curiosity, yes
Chris McDonnell
(Wednesday blogger from UK)
The rapidity of change emphasises our need to live the message of the Vatican Council by looking forward
(Congrats, Chris & all UK friends 
on UK's success at Olympics.
These days in HK I'm trying to avoid Brits...and New Zealanders! jw)
Also: Chris would like to encourage readers to use comment box 
at bottom of his articles

10 reasons not to ordain men
Stasi (Feminary)


The New Evangelisation

Sean OConaill
(ACP)
“In the Catholic Church it has often seemed that a sin of the flesh was the only sin, and obedience the only virtue.”  This observation by Yves Congar still seems to me to sum up the predicament of the Church in contemplating ‘New Evangelisation’

China: Mainland Malaise
 
The End of the Chinese Dream
Bishop Peter Selby (Tablet)
It has become clear that a major cause of our economic difficulties
 has been the ever more intriguing ways found to make money out of money, at an ever-increasing distance from real economic activity

More on same-sex marriage
 and gay lifestyle
Laura Kuntz
With response from John W

Annual gathering of US nuns
Maria Pederiva
(VI)z
Reader: A report without spin

Vat II according to JP I (One)

Andrea Tornielli
(VI)
Reader: What a Ratzinger spin
Tornielli puts on  JP I. 
c.f. comment by John W
(Catholica)

Vatican II  Reflection 225

Spreading the Gospel "Ad Gentes"

Bible plan: August 8
Readings for Mary MacKillop

John W: Daily Blog - August 8
Mary MacKillop like Bill Morris 


Thursday
August 9

How to interpret Vatican II
Fr Harry Winter OMI
(Thursday blogger from USA)
In 1965, the sixteen documents, and the energy of Vatican II, arose in a certain direction.  But several very important events soon occurred, practically unforeseen by the Council Fathers, which have affected how we view Vatican II

Vatican II has already made us free
Robert Blair Kaiser (NCR)
With J O'Malley's famous words:
"from commands to invitations, from laws to ideals, from definition to mystery, from threats to persuasion, from coercion to conscience, from monologue to dialogue, from ruling to service, from withdrawn to integrated, from vertical to horizontal, from exclusion to inclusion, from hostility to friendship, from rivalry to partnership, from suspicion to trust"

 

In front of Capernaum Synagogue
(Bible Claret)
What an excellent presentation!

From same stable: Liturgy Alive

Speaking of synagogues, recently at a HK prison I met a Rabbi visiting some of his sheep. He belongs to the Chabad of China which has
 this very professional website

A few weeks ago I was in contact with someone affected by Anxiety Attacks, someone who needed a place to go for an understanding chat during the day. I could not find such a place. But yesterday I met people from Joyful Mental Health (holding a fund raising function). JMH will help AA people

 

For Spanish readers:
Un tal Jesus    A Spanish Blog site

Spanish/Portuguese Blog site

Bishop E. Angelleli assassination

Olympics: alternative medal table
(Guardian)

4-Course Bible meal for August 9
- spirit came down on David
- avoid slander
- God gives us strength
- a Roman friendly to Jews

Vatican  II  Reflection 226
There's more than one way 
to baptize a cat(holic)

John W:  Daily Blog - August 9
Anyone for (early!) breakfast ? 


Friday
August 10

Does Mary MacKillop inspire you?
Bill Mulcahy
(Friday blogger from Australia)
Never see a need without trying to do something about it.”  

 

Instead of attributing such weight to John Paul II's Assisi meeting in taking the sting out of Vatican II, could we not just say that the determining factor - far beyond any influence from the charismatic movement - was the election of John Paul II himself? The next most significant factor was his appointment of Cardinal Ratzinger to head up CDF

This most interesting reflection was posted in comment box of  How to interpret Vat II
 by Fr Harry Winter OMI
(Aug 9)


Olympics: Story of Kenya's 800m champion & an Irish brother

Adharanand Finn
(Guardian)

India: Christian film aims to  curb human trafficking (CRIB)
 Dalits comprise close to one quarter of  India’s 1.2 billion  population, but because of the caste system, are seen as inherently worthless. So they face discrimination & poverty, making them extremely vulnerable  to traffickers

More liturgical terms explained
Elizabeth Harrington (Leader)

History of Chinese phrase "Ga Yau!"
("Go, Go, Go, keep going!")

4-course Bible meal for August 10
- how to fight giants
- prayer in distress
- hope makes us more loving
- command prayer for dead man

Vatican II  Reflection 227
Christianity not a "Western" religion

John W:   Daily Blog - August 10
HK: 1 in 6 couples infertile

Issues to study & take a stand on:

1. The movement to re-interpret Vatican II 

2 The movement to re-interpret  marriage

Trying to stay in the middle of the road doesn't mean sitting on the fence



Saturday
August 11

A ( new?) way of understanding
 "Gone home to Heaven"

John W

Missionary should not be deported
Giacomo Galeazzi
(VI)
Reader: I seem to recall someone else who got into trouble for mixing with this kind of people

Tomorrow:  LCWR meeting 
with bishop in St Louis

Fabrizio Mastrofini
(VI)
Reader: Transparency is a huge issue here: the CDF needs, for credibility's sake, to be very definite and precise in what it accuses the LCWR

Five major challenges
 facing the Church

China Church Voices


Anglicans divest from News Corp
Trevor Grundy
(NCR)

Vatican II Reflection 228
 Jesus upgrades our lives 


4-course Bible meal for August 11
 - Saul jealous of David
- how to feel young again
- out of darkness
- leaders thwarted God's plan

John W:  Daily Blog -August 11
Canada: primary one taught 
there are three types of families
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John, I MUCH appreciate your taking the time and energy to answer my question -- one that may have "put you on the spot." I am trying to find where I fit right now, whether there is any hope for me in any sense in the Catholic church, perhaps even on the fringes, or whether I need to build a future for myself and my family, as appropriate, in an Episcopalian church or other tradition. To be truthful, I am so "done" with the woman priest issue, gay issue, and have been done for years with the birth control issue. I think that your blog does a very good service for those who wish to change some things about the church, perhaps bring it up to date to a degree. But, the church is so far behind, and has created so many wounds, I'm not sure whether it can become anything but a relic in Europe, and, down the line, in the States as it continues to lose relevance  - Laura Kuntz 
(part of her comment at article "Where do you stand  on the issue of same-sex marriage?"  (Aug 4)

 

 

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 this website each day

 

Calendar      (any other items?):

Sep 14 - 16: Pope to Lebanon 

Oct 7 -28 Synod of Bishops

Oct 10 - Heythrop, London: 
Call to Action meeting 

 

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  From all parts of the world!
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Let's encourage more people 
to see 1-10  re Bishop Bill Morris
1: Judge's conclusions
2: Canon lawyer's report
 
3: Radio interview with judge

4:  "The Age" file of letters
5: Summary re Rome
 6: Frank Brennan's update
7: ABC radio Fr Frank Brennan

8. Update from Frank Brennan

9. Vatileaks & Bp Bill Morris

10: Tablet letter - Frank Brennan

After reading 1-10, check the "Pravda" report of CNA.
How can a Catholic agency 
publish such blatant lies?


Google "Morris" at top of this page
for many articles re Bishop BM

 

 

 

Church is too Western/European

 
 

 Bp Bill Morris   
Bp Pat Power
Bp Geoff Robinson
Bruce Duncan
Catalyst for Renewal
Catholics for Ministry  
Frank Brennan
Peter Johnstone     
The Swag
 

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16 Documents of V2 
We Are Church
STANDUP4VATICAN2
VII - Voice of the Church

Catholic Priests Ireland

PrayTell
Donald Cozzens
Misguided Missal
   

Current bloggers  

  Brian Lewis        
  Martin Mallon   
  Chris McDonnell
 Bill Mulcahy      
   
David Timbs    
Harry Winter 
  
John Wotherspoon

Previous bloggers

Hazel of Old Windsor
 
   Inigo Joachim   
Judith Lynch
 Des O'Donnell
  Peter Wilkinson  

Hans Kung's letter to bishops
(the best description of what's happening)

Fr J. Ratzinger's writings on Vat II

US priests: reassess new translation

Open letter to US bishops re new translation

Making do with a faulty translation

Irish priests use 1998 ICE  - not new translation

Priests say 9 Masses a day - need to ordain married men

The evil of compulsory celibacy


Why are women not being ordained to priesthood?

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